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Quote Esprit Replybullet Posted: 30 June 2010 at 12:16
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Once again, I didn't need that suggestion, I had already started that a week before.

Interesting. And did you start this therapy of your own volition, or are things so bad at the family or professional level that you were strongly ‘encouraged’ to do so. In any event and hopefully, given that this neurotic behaviour is probably at its peak, as is illustrated by the vestige of common sense that is causing these cries for help, that you will not enact this fantasy which would ruin your life. Regrettably, your therapy is likely to go on for as long as your therapist needs the fees yet ultimately you will begin to approach what will be an epiphany when your real issue will become apparent to you and when you will discover that this has little or nothing to do with the woman in question or Brazil. We are delicate creatures and life is cruel.       

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Quote Juninho Replybullet Posted: 30 June 2010 at 12:46
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Dear God it gets worse! A couple of nights restricted by impotence followed by poetry and soul searching. The women are gonna love this novel because the man is not interested in plunging the depths of her love pudding but rather mind melting into her very essence; getting his gratification from knowing the real woman that yearns to be discovered. In the final chapter the transient medical problem is resolved - doggy fashion.

Of course there could be an alternate ending albeit dramatic like say, ending up a floating corpse wrapped in barbed wire when the father of the child gets out of prison and discovers the love fest. Or the transient problem turns out to be leprosy when everything falls off and the poetry is not enough to sustain the passion.  

 
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Quote charlote Replybullet Posted: 30 June 2010 at 18:39
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"of course I know what she was doing abroad for the several years"

she's the one who spent years abroad and you speak Portuguese  on MSN with her.... tá bom



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Quote Steven Replybullet Posted: 30 June 2010 at 18:49
Unfortunately the tale is so outlandish that we all would like to believe it's true.  However, I still think that we are dealing with a troll.
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Quote charlote Replybullet Posted: 30 June 2010 at 19:13
"What I wanted -- and accomplished -- was simply to debunk the myth that you can't be happy with a lower class Brazilian girl. "

Despite the differences yeah a gringo can be happy with a lower class Brazilian girl if he understands her completely. Coming from a total different reality how do you expect to reach this understanding through the internet?? You can't even understand the difference between favela and subúrbio/periferia; you don't have this concept in English. I think the projects in the US or France give a vague idea of it...

Favela is a place where usually people don't have running water electricity pavement and asphalt. Subúrbio is a place that could have been a favela before but improved and have all the things a favela usually dont have. Mostly workers live there and yes they have internet, telephone line, electricity. Your favela-like is in fact a community called suburbio. They won't have computers and internet in a favela unless there's a social project going on or even lan houses in the most "modern" favelas in Rio.


a favela http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGXjNCGiEVw

bairro de periferia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6ZSzCA3Lzg

Of course (roll eyes) there's honest people in periferias with family values, as well as in favelas. See this article. There have been several stories like this, when simple people return big cash they find somewhere, just google them. This forum page discusses why poor people return money found (roll eyes).

It doesn't mean that because she's low class she's automatically a hooker or a gringo chaser. In touristic beach cities, the combination of single male gringo + Brazilian beaches is a stereotyping cliche which raises eyebrows. I remember the first time I went to Rio when I was 17 seeing hookers in copacabana pavement talking to super white guys during daylight. I hope I have helped.


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Quote charlote Replybullet Posted: 30 June 2010 at 19:18
Originally posted by Steven

Unfortunately the tale is so outlandish that we all would like to believe it's true.  However, I still think that we are dealing with a troll.


Steven

I think you're right but still there's some clarifying work to do with all he keeps repeating.

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Quote Dom Pedro Replybullet Posted: 30 June 2010 at 20:20
He needs a shrink, not a girl. Ponto frio.

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Quote charlote Replybullet Posted: 01 July 2010 at 00:55
Squiddie, I have a story to share with you. I am a Brazilian woman and had a thing with a gringo once when I went to Canada. He was a Canadian with Italian origin. I spoke little English at the time but could understand a little more. We would talk in English, Spanish, Italian and Portuguese.  He couldn't understand a squat about my background and life back in Brazil, yet it felt he understood me a little in person, maybe I made myself very clear through my attitudes LOL! There was this easiness of staying together, an "intimacy" between us and an inevitable urge of staying together. The sweetness, the kindness, even the awkward moments swept me off my feet, I have to admit. The thingy didn't work out, nor should, we lived too different and distant worlds that touched each other for a brief moment. In romances strangers idealize each other that's why it's called romance. The day to day is the only test you can expect to know what it's going to be.

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Quote Esprit Replybullet Posted: 01 July 2010 at 02:31
Originally posted by Squiddie

 

Selective editing from some of his posts that cover most of the salient points:

“I am about to make a huge change in my life because I think I have found true magical love with a Brazilian girl, single mother in her mid twenties (over a decade younger than I)…I met her in a club…I have been with her for 2 nights/days during one week…I'm still so amazed that she would love me so dearly having just met me for few days…We spent 2 nights with much gentle and passionate love, but it wasn't the sex that sparked (actually I have currently a transient medical issue knocking out the little man!)... We talk a lot through MSN...she comes from low class background… I am especially concerned about the implication of the social status difference...I am concerned she (and her family) is into me (even subconsciously) in large parts for what I represent rather than who I really am…I am being pulled into the family big time, it scares me a little…Their living conditions are favela-like…I just know she was a bit ashamed about where she lives and finally gave me her address. I checked it out on Google Earth…there may be expectations and hopes or assumptions about my economic power…My girl has fully admitted that she does not like working and that she sees her goal in life to attach herself to a nice man…I am an intellectual inside-out…I will ask my girl to figure out what our life expenditures would be... Even after leaving some financial security to my current family, I could be settling down with a little endowment just enough to have a modest life in Brazil... But we have not been able to spend much time together and we won't be able to before I am making a huge decision about my life betting everything on this one card....I'll try for a few months to recover the best in my current marriage and then see if that can measure up with what I found...I have retained the help of a professional to figure out the mess in myself…If this were to end in a disaster, I would have positively ruined a good life, not only mine, and all for what I would then call a foolish dream.”

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Quote Squiddie Replybullet Posted: 01 July 2010 at 17:11
Thanks Charlotte for your helpful comments. Yes, I never really bought the favela thing, periferada is a better way to put it. I got so much negative "advice" from people like in this forum, lots to work through and overcome all that negativity. But every step of the way this girl has shown me how much better she is than any of the preconceived ideas the these internet "advisors" maintained so strongly. This is why I don't take any of this vicious ranting against me seriously, because people who do that always tend to stigmatize everything in broad strokes.

Not sure what you meant with your comment on being abroad and talking in Portuguese on MSN. Yes, it is good, but I guess you were also being cynical? Always doubting first, eh? Could not be that she was in a country near France whose language I happen not to speak? No, it's always best to assume the worst. I now understand why she has been so adamant to show me evidence corroborating her story, it seems like these people are struggling against a constant stigmatization as liars and gringo-chasing piranhas.

What really intrigues me on this forum though is that people here are so paranoid about "trolls" and "spam", especially since I don't find any example of "trolling" and "spamming" in other posts that I read, yet constantly people are attacking each other of "trolling" or "spamming". May be we all need a "shrink". I'm so puzzled why many here can just take everything and put their negative smear over it, and even the ones who sometimes are helpful, seem to be very shy at that, lest they might appear as "not cool". Now it becomes clear to me, this is reminiscent of a school yard where people try to get applause for being the one who can ridicule another person the best, and even the nicer people can't help but applaud. What a dynamic.

Anyway, despite the cynicism and put-downs that people throw at me here, there is occasionally the piece of really helpful information. So, thanks. (Esprit's latest collation of my quotes is quite intriguing, nice work.)


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