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andrewfroboy
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Posted: 18 June 2010 at 16:21

thanks! I wasn't sure, i live in Washington DC, so I always think of the embassy

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nikkij12185
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Posted: 18 June 2010 at 16:56

Your passport does not need to be legalized.

They are automatically supposed to be recognized in other countries.

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Posted: 18 June 2010 at 17:03

No, the passport itself doesn't need to be legalised.

With "legalised" the original is stamped and certified that it is a legal document from the country of origin

With "authenticated copy" the copy is stamped and certified as being a true copy of the original.

So you need to send your passport and a photocopy of the photo page and the embassy/consulate will compare them and then stamp the photocopy to say that it is an autentic copy of your passport. They will not stamp your passport.

The website for the embassy in washington doesn't have much info about this but the one in London (http://www.consbraslondres.com/index.php?pagina=13&id=690) does:

01. I am British and wish to get married in Brazil. What should I do?

You will get precise answers to all your questions if you address the Brazilian Register Office ("Cartório do Registro Civil") or the Church in Brazil where you intend to get married. Requirements may vary from place to place.

The list below contains the documents most often required but should be double-checked in each case:

FOR UNMARRIED PERSONS

1. Birth certificate (for British citizens, Full Birth Certificate)

2. Non-impediment Certificate ("Atestado de Estado Civil")
3. Residence Certificate (proof of residence)
4. Psasport or Identity Card (original and certified photocopy)
5. Power of Attorney ("Procuração)

FOR DIVORCED PERSONS

1. Birth certificate (for British citizens, Full Birth Certificate)

2. Divorce decree "Nisi Absolute" and original Marriage Certificate
When divorced abroad from a Brazilian citizen, one must present t "homologação de sentença estrangeira"
3. Residence Certificate (proof of residence)
4. Psasport or Identity Card (original and certified photocopy)
5. Power of Attorney ("Procuração)

FOR WIDOWED PERSONS

1. Birth certificate (for British citizens, Full Birth Certificate)
2. Spouse's Death Certificate and original Marriage Certificate

3. Residence Certificate (proof of residence)
4. Psasport or Identity Card (original and certified photocopy)
5. Power of Attorney ("Procuração")

TO BE VALID IN BRAZIL, DOCUMENTS ISSUED ABROAD MUST BE LEGALISED BY THE BRAZILIAN CONSULATE AT THE PLACE WHERE DOCUMENTS WERE ISSUED. ONCE LEGALISED, DOCUMENTS MUST BE TRANSLATED INTO PORTUGUESE BY A SWORN TRANSLATOR IN BRAZIL.

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andrewfroboy
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Posted: 18 June 2010 at 17:26

okay, so can I just get it translated in Brasil and make an authenticated copy a cartorio in Brasil and not do anything in the US then?

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DUNGA
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Posted: 18 June 2010 at 18:56

I really don't think most people have ever needed to get their passport translated.

A Mangueira é a música do Brasil

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nikkij12185
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Posted: 18 June 2010 at 19:02

I had to get mine translated. :/ It cost like R$150 just for the name page.

Then I had to pay another R$120 or so to get the stupid thing registered.

Both the cartorio AND the oficio de notas (where I had to get it registered) demanded the translation.

The real kicker was that once we finally got married I had to pay even more money to get a new passport because I changed my name.

Getting married in Brazil is ridiculously expensive.

Edited by nikkij12185 - 18 June 2010 at 19:02

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molendinar
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Posted: 18 June 2010 at 19:10

I had to get mine translated as well, just the name page.
Last autententicated copy of the photo page I did at a cartorio they stamped it saying it could not be used in Brazil unless I'd also done a translation:

"O presente documento, para produzir efeito no Brasil e para valer contra terceiros deverá ser vertido em vernáculo, e registrada a tradução (art. 224 do Código Civil, e art. 148, Segunda parte, da Lei de Registros Públicos"

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andrewfroboy
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Posted: 19 June 2010 at 21:38

do the Policia Federal demand a translated passport for the permanent visa for marriage too? seems odd as they recognize the passport for other stuff, or is it just the cartorios asking for that?

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Posted: 20 June 2010 at 12:51

it's just the cartorio. pf are ok with autenticated copy and sight of the original passport

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andrewfroboy
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Posted: 20 June 2010 at 17:21

thanks, so i'll check with the cartorio and hope maybe they are cool with it not translated to save some money

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andrewfroboy Senior Member Joined: 16 April 2009 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 339	Posted: 18 June 2010 at 16:21
	thanks! I wasn't sure, i live in Washington DC, so I always think of the embassy
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nikkij12185 Senior Member Joined: 10 March 2009 Location: Brazil Online Status: Offline Posts: 586	Posted: 18 June 2010 at 16:56
	Your passport does not need to be legalized. They are automatically supposed to be recognized in other countries.
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molendinar Groupie Joined: 12 November 2009 Location: Brazil Online Status: Offline Posts: 77	Posted: 18 June 2010 at 17:03
	No, the passport itself doesn't need to be legalised. With "legalised" the original is stamped and certified that it is a legal document from the country of origin With "authenticated copy" the copy is stamped and certified as being a true copy of the original. So you need to send your passport and a photocopy of the photo page and the embassy/consulate will compare them and then stamp the photocopy to say that it is an autentic copy of your passport. They will not stamp your passport. The website for the embassy in washington doesn't have much info about this but the one in London (http://www.consbraslondres.com/index.php?pagina=13&id=690) does: 01. I am British and wish to get married in Brazil. What should I do? You will get precise answers to all your questions if you address the Brazilian Register Office ("Cartório do Registro Civil") or the Church in Brazil where you intend to get married. Requirements may vary from place to place. The list below contains the documents most often required but should be double-checked in each case: FOR UNMARRIED PERSONS 1. Birth certificate (for British citizens, Full Birth Certificate) 2. Non-impediment Certificate ("Atestado de Estado Civil") 3. Residence Certificate (proof of residence) 4. Psasport or Identity Card (original and certified photocopy) 5. Power of Attorney ("Procuração) FOR DIVORCED PERSONS 1. Birth certificate (for British citizens, Full Birth Certificate) 2. Divorce decree "Nisi Absolute" and original Marriage Certificate When divorced abroad from a Brazilian citizen, one must present t "homologação de sentença estrangeira" 3. Residence Certificate (proof of residence) 4. Psasport or Identity Card (original and certified photocopy) 5. Power of Attorney ("Procuração) FOR WIDOWED PERSONS 1. Birth certificate (for British citizens, Full Birth Certificate) 2. Spouse's Death Certificate and original Marriage Certificate 3. Residence Certificate (proof of residence) 4. Psasport or Identity Card (original and certified photocopy) 5. Power of Attorney ("Procuração") TO BE VALID IN BRAZIL, DOCUMENTS ISSUED ABROAD MUST BE LEGALISED BY THE BRAZILIAN CONSULATE AT THE PLACE WHERE DOCUMENTS WERE ISSUED. ONCE LEGALISED, DOCUMENTS MUST BE TRANSLATED INTO PORTUGUESE BY A SWORN TRANSLATOR IN BRAZIL.
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andrewfroboy Senior Member Joined: 16 April 2009 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 339	Posted: 18 June 2010 at 17:26
	okay, so can I just get it translated in Brasil and make an authenticated copy a cartorio in Brasil and not do anything in the US then?
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DUNGA Gringoes.com Guru Joined: 30 March 2006 Location: Brazil Online Status: Offline Posts: 3699	Posted: 18 June 2010 at 18:56
	I really don't think most people have ever needed to get their passport translated.
	A Mangueira é a música do Brasil
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nikkij12185 Senior Member Joined: 10 March 2009 Location: Brazil Online Status: Offline Posts: 586	Posted: 18 June 2010 at 19:02
	I had to get mine translated. :/ It cost like R$150 just for the name page. Then I had to pay another R$120 or so to get the stupid thing registered. Both the cartorio AND the oficio de notas (where I had to get it registered) demanded the translation. The real kicker was that once we finally got married I had to pay even more money to get a new passport because I changed my name. Getting married in Brazil is ridiculously expensive. Edited by nikkij12185 - 18 June 2010 at 19:02
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molendinar Groupie Joined: 12 November 2009 Location: Brazil Online Status: Offline Posts: 77	Posted: 18 June 2010 at 19:10
	I had to get mine translated as well, just the name page. Last autententicated copy of the photo page I did at a cartorio they stamped it saying it could not be used in Brazil unless I'd also done a translation: "O presente documento, para produzir efeito no Brasil e para valer contra terceiros deverá ser vertido em vernáculo, e registrada a tradução (art. 224 do Código Civil, e art. 148, Segunda parte, da Lei de Registros Públicos"
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andrewfroboy Senior Member Joined: 16 April 2009 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 339	Posted: 19 June 2010 at 21:38
	do the Policia Federal demand a translated passport for the permanent visa for marriage too? seems odd as they recognize the passport for other stuff, or is it just the cartorios asking for that?
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molendinar Groupie Joined: 12 November 2009 Location: Brazil Online Status: Offline Posts: 77	Posted: 20 June 2010 at 12:51
	it's just the cartorio. pf are ok with autenticated copy and sight of the original passport
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andrewfroboy Senior Member Joined: 16 April 2009 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 339	Posted: 20 June 2010 at 17:21
	thanks, so i'll check with the cartorio and hope maybe they are cool with it not translated to save some money
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