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contrarygringo
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Joined: 25 July 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
   Topic: Best way to get job in Brazil when you're gringo?Posted: 25 July 2010 at 03:41 |
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Hey folks-
My Brazilian wife and I intend to move to Brazil (we're in the U.S. currently) ideally in mid 2011 after I graduate with a B.A. in Finance. What are the best ways to land employment if you're gringo? - Any suggested web sites? - Is it who you know more than what you know? - Any specific corporations like to hire expats or native English speakers? - Anything else P.S. - I'm fluent in portuguese and have no major problems with the language. |
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MovingSoon
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Joined: 21 January 2007 Location: Brazil Online Status: Online Posts: 1290 |
Posted: 25 July 2010 at 10:21 |
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Best way is to get hired by a company in the US that has an office in Brazil and then get transferred.
Your degree is going to give you more choices in Sao Paulo than everywhere else. More finance jobs there.
My experience is that headhunters and placement companies are worthless in Brazil, even the 'international' ones. Best bet is to send your resume to the CFOs, CEOs, and such directly. HR departments are also the wrong approach as you become a number. If you get bounced from the top down, then you have a shot. Remember that only about 20% of the jobs are advertised on the Internet...
Its tough. You need your permanent resident visa or your are out of luck completely. If you don't have it, get it now-it takes some time. NO one will hire you without it.
Good luck!!
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Venezolano
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Joined: 08 December 2009 Location: Brazil Online Status: Offline Posts: 211 |
Posted: 25 July 2010 at 11:25 |
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I have seen a lot of position available online from Baker Hughes. you can go directly to their website, of course you are planning to come in 2011 so the positions will be close for that time, but you can try later...
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Twirly
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Joined: 09 September 2008 Location: Brazil Online Status: Offline Posts: 166 |
Posted: 25 July 2010 at 11:50 |
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You have more than a 90% chance of failure.
Take whatever relevant job you can get. If you are in it is easy to change job after a year or so. And as stated, without your permanent residency your chances of failure are 99,999%. I belong to the 0,001% as I got a job on my temporary residency. So it is not impossible but very unlikely. |
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Twirly
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Joined: 09 September 2008 Location: Brazil Online Status: Offline Posts: 166 |
Posted: 25 July 2010 at 11:56 |
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And yes.
It is all about who you know and not what you know. Another thing. Unless you where born and raised here you are not fluent in Portuguese. |
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ptic
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Joined: 25 December 2007 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 359 |
Posted: 25 July 2010 at 16:59 |
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You people are very pessimistic here. It's hard to get a job in Brasil, very hard indeed, but still not impossible chances are slim yes. Also I still think that it's a very bad idea to be looking for work at international companies and hoping to be transfered, it's just isn't going to work out. First of all nobody is going to place you in Brasil from abroad the first day you arrive, you'll have to stay with company for quite some time and prove yourself. And even then it won't matter much, only if you're extremly lucky.
Also only 20 % of the job are advertised .... Hmm I'm not sure about that. In england for instance there is a lot of recruitment companies and sometimes they've got job advertised on behave of their clients. The company who is hiring doesn't actually advertise for a opening. Once I got notified about possible Job in Macedonia as I do speak serbian, where company (client) entrusted recruitment agency to do a check whether there are feasible candidates on the UK market ... But still this is england and not Brasil ... Does make you think though ... It's hard but not impossible. the way I look at it ... searching for a job is a full time work anyway, so basically you never stop working although in this case you are working "pro bono". Is that the right expression?? Edited by ptic - 25 July 2010 at 17:04 |
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ptic
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Joined: 25 December 2007 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 359 |
Posted: 25 July 2010 at 17:23 |
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Also go through the previous post and topics. This theme has been discussed god knows how many times. Be prepared to be really demoralized as you go through all the reading. It will say somewhere along the lines impossible, complete and utter nightmare, permanent residency required, lack of experience, plenty of local skilled people available etc.
No need to despair though consider this as a research project, look into possibilities check other people's stories etc ... There's plenty of information on the forum. I don't even bother myself by asking the same old question here over and over again ... mainly because I know what the answers will be. Good news though you said you and your brasilian wife, that's good which means you can apply for permanent residency, which will take care of 90 percent of all incovenience with it, it won't help you find job, but it will certainly improve your ods ... significantly. Edited by ptic - 25 July 2010 at 17:27 |
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MovingSoon
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Joined: 21 January 2007 Location: Brazil Online Status: Online Posts: 1290 |
Posted: 25 July 2010 at 17:31 |
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We aren't pessimistic, we are realist.
And yes, 20% is a real number. I have not only researched this, but executives in the industry have confirmed the number-generally speaking. I know a couple of the country heads for two of the largest recruiting/headhunting companies in the world and its what they base their findings on.
Oh, and by the way...companies only hire recruiting companies to find applicants when there is an opening- they don't hire them when they are going to fire or lay someone off for obvious reasons. Twenty percent is a real figure in a working economy-I'd venture to say its even less now in this worldwide, slowerthanhell economy.
Work in Brazil is tough for Brazilians. Why do you think so many are unemployed? Its not just the unskilled labor force, but skilled as well. Brazilians with Master Degrees cant find jobs. Companies aren't going to hire an expat over a Brazilian because of the cost, paperwork, and regulations as now written-there is no incentive. Its just the opposite.
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ptic
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Joined: 25 December 2007 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 359 |
Posted: 25 July 2010 at 17:49 |
Well I'm realist as well to be honest. Recruitment agencies in the UK for example are paid for supplying quality people for their clients, they won't bother hire recruitment consultancy if they would want to sack people. I don't know why did you say that as I certainly haven't insinuated anything in that direction?!? Even though I'm realist here, there's always that voice in my head telling me otherwise. Many times I can spot things other people can't see, sort of "out of the box thinking" and I'm also not the one who is giving up easily. In my opinion there's always a way, every problem has a solution ... It's extremly hard yes, not impossible I would say. There's still that 0.001 Percent Twirly mentioned ...  Also as topic started mentioned he's married to brasilian which takes care of majority of his problems. Edited by ptic - 25 July 2010 at 17:51 |
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ptic
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Joined: 25 December 2007 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 359 |
Posted: 25 July 2010 at 17:59 |
He he headhunters are worthless here in UK as well. About a month ago I got on offer for half a year contract work in Hull for a onshore and offshore emissions monitoring. Eventhough I've got very good experience in that area I didn't get the job, becuase they needed someone who can mobilize quickly and I needed to supply one months notice period to my employeer. Pity though I could have used some extra wonga. |
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