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Quote MovingSoon Replybullet Topic: Sending a container to Brazil
    Posted: 07 July 2010 at 23:51

Today I spent ten hours at the port in Rio, getting warm and cozy with the boys in charge of my container.  I thought I'd share a few comments about the experience that might help others-

+Brazil inspects EVERY container that lands, at least at Rio. They don't pick and choose or do random inspections-ALL are inspected. 
+They will entirely unload the container, put it on pallets for inspection, and then reload the container.  And I mean EVERYTHING.
+When you are asked if you want to be there during the inspection-ALWAYS go and watch from the time they open it to the time they close it.  Put on your own padlock when it leaves initially and be there to open it for them, then slap it on again for delivery.  They will treat your stuff better, less chance of breakage, and nothing will go missing.
+Your personal inspection lies ENTIRELY at the hands of your particular inspector.  Today I watched four inspections with three different inspecters in the same area as mine.  Some politely open the box and have it taped back up. Some cut holes in the side of boxes and destroy the sturdiness of the box.  Some open every box.  Some open just a few boxes.
 
Forget the insurance when asked by the moving company if you want it.  Its only good while the container is on the boat.  Save your money for the other charges.
 
You will need a broker in Brazil to run the paperwork for you.  The moving company doesn't do it.
 
Don't ask the moving company what kind of list you need of items you are sending, what kind of log to keep, or how to mark the boxes.  Ask the broker you are using as they deal with the customs office.  The moving company is clueless and will tell you something wrong.
 
Be prepared for all charges and ask a lot of questions when you find a moving company.  You will pay for the move, charges at the port, broker's fee, and storage of the container at the port-usually from day one (most moving companies leave this part out)  And its all cash or credit card...forget checks.  And if the inspector finds something he doesn't like, be prepared for even more.
 
If you ship just a few items by a moving company, and it goes on a boat-chance are they are putting it in a container shared with someone else.  These are nightmares.  More than half the time you will be delayed because something in the container, that is not even yours, is wrong.  Your stuff will also be delayed.  Try to take a whole container if you can.
 
As been discussed on this forum before---you can NOT ship anything with a gas engine.  Chainsaws, mopeds, cars, etc--will probably be found.  In the warehouse where I was, there was a scooter, two jetskis, couple of chainsaws, string trimmer-that were set aside.  When found, they are auctioned off.  They boys told me even cars that are put in the containers are auctioned off...and the port keeps the money!
 
We have a very strong relationship at the port and still had the container unloaded, inspected, and reloaded.  And I have to ad that they are really good at reloading.  They do so many that it will be better packed then it was originally was.  But most have no regard to fragile stickers, keep upright, or breakable written on the box!!!  Another reason to be there...
 
(also learned that you can ship two containers, or more, if you ship them at the same time-so they go on the same boat.  AND, every three years you can ship more stuff tax free)
 
Just some helpful hints...


Edited by MovingSoon - 09 July 2010 at 00:58
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Quote Bubbles Replybullet Posted: 08 July 2010 at 08:04
Thanks MS - useful info to know.
 
Apologies in advance, but most likely I'll be contacting you later for advice when my container eventually gets there - it's in storage in the UK as I only have a tourist visa at present and am looking of ways round this....
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Quote sven Replybullet Posted: 08 July 2010 at 11:38
Just adding one thing:

There must be a list of all items in the container (ex 200 toothpicks) and the list must supply in what box the item can be found.

Having "extra items" may hold up the shipment. Friends of mine had their goods at the Rio harbour for 9 months.

When we loaded the container we used every cubic centimeter to pack stuff. After taking everything out, they where unable to repack the containers with everything and "invited" us to "help them" e.i. to take everthing out once again and repack it.
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Quote MovingSoon Replybullet Posted: 08 July 2010 at 11:56
Thats were talking to your broker comes in handy...
 
Our shipping company said we had to number all the boxes and have a log of what was in each box by the number.  But we could be kind of general.  They didn't need it but Brazil needed it.
 
The broker, that handles customs and the actual container said that was kind of a dumb thing for them to tell us.  He required a list by groups: what was electronic, what was household, what was furniture, etc.  Didn't care about specifics, didn't care about each individual box...wanted the items listed though.
We had a LOT of extra items we didn't list individually and that didn't matter, at least in my case...
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Quote terma-nator Replybullet Posted: 08 July 2010 at 17:43
I'd like to add that finding your own broker is vital. I used confianca for my shipping and the shipping part (for the most part) went ok. But I used the broker that they set me up with, "DFelix" and they were the most incompetent people on earth. They were sent all my paperwork, and they still screwed it up.

My experience was that they unloaded everything, and haphazardly threw everything back into the container. Boxes clearly marked with arrows pointing up were not "up'. The inspector "fined" me for bringing in a new tv. He said that new items were not allowed. Many more things went wrong. But the broker lied to us with just about every thing they said. I had to find another broker to finally get the correct story, and then things were done right.

i wasn't there when they opened it up, since this went on for a long Time, and I never knew when they would open it up (I am in Belo Horizonte). Nothing was missing (so far) and only a few low priced items were broken.

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Quote MovingSoon Replybullet Posted: 09 July 2010 at 00:47
If I had it all to do over again, knowing the hassle, the cost, and just the over all experience...I would sell everything and not ship a damn thing.
 
Even with everything costing more in Brazil, by the time you go through the hassle and cost, and including your time spent- you could save time by not shipping a fricking thing.  The emotional attachment to your 'stuff' is just not worth it in the end...
 
(and I guess I should add that we weren't even hassled or had that much trouble, but when you add up all the cost, the time of loading, getting your stuff, all the damn paperwork, stress of the entire procedure- looking back its just not worth it.  I'd rather sell everything and take the money and buy new stuff.  I'm confident now that I didn't save much money)


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Quote angejh Replybullet Posted: 09 July 2010 at 01:14
hehhe... It is funny the thing about "stuff".  I have all these "items" back home - basic stuff, but enough to fill a house at least - that I have some attachment to / have trouble getting rid of.   Yet take me away with my 2 suitcases, and I almost never seriously feel a lack of something that couldn't fit in the suitcase.
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Quote KirkMcD Replybullet Posted: 09 July 2010 at 08:33
Originally posted by MovingSoon

Forget the insurance when asked by the moving company if you want it.  Its only good while the container is on the boat.  Save your money for the other charges.
 
Well that depends, we had door-to-door delivery and some things were damaged at some point. The insurance covered it.


As been discussed on this forum before---you can NOT ship anything with a gas engine.  Chainsaws, mopeds, cars, etc--will probably be found.  In the warehouse where I was, there was a scooter, two jetskis, couple of chainsaws, string trimmer-that were set aside.  When found, they are auctioned off. 

We got our gas trimmers through. We asked about it ahead of time and got it approved. Anything with an engine under 49cc's is supposed to be ok. You can fight for them.


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Quote BrazilMommy Replybullet Posted: 29 July 2010 at 21:43
Hi!

I'm looking for some good company that can deliver door-to-door! What company did you use? USA to Brazil! It's hard to find one that we can trust!

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Quote MovingSoon Replybullet Posted: 30 July 2010 at 01:03
Confianca is a huge Brazilian company that has offices in the US.  I can personally recommend them...however, your broker is really just as important...
(they have been in business a long time, unlike a lot of others..)

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